This one’s for the leaders.
In this episode, I talk with a most amazing psychotherapist and “Leadership Whisperer,” Jerry Fromm. Jerry does organizational consulting, which means he helps people figure out (as I put it) what the hell is happening psychodynamically within their walls — or within their societies! or countries! since he works with individuals and groups domestically and internationally as well. He does quite remarkable work and tells lots of fascinating stories in today’s conversation, stories that will make teachers and school leaders think differently about themselves and the school cultures they’re a part of.
Many schools are rethinking their cultures. But I promise you: Jerry’s perspective will make you think in a way you could never have imagined.
Listen now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
We discuss
The Clinical Is Missing: A simple and amazing definition of “clinical” makes Jerry’s (and TTE’s) psychodynamic work relevant to schools.
The Sentient Level of Organizations: How, in the psychological dynamics of systems, contagious unprocessed feelings define the school culture.
Playing Roles: Managing the “invitations flying around” all organizations to fit with others in familiar ways.
Different Types of Organizations: What are narcissistic organizations? What are dependent organizations?
The Power of Pictures: What drawing a picture of your organization with you in it can reveal.
External Links
For information on Group Relations Conferences and Leading from Experience, go to The Center for the Study of Groups and Social Systems.
To get in touch with Jerry, email him at gerard.fromm@austenriggs.net.
Credits
Founder and Host: Betsy Burris
Co-Host: Joe Johnson
Producer: Jullian Androkae of PodVision
Audience Development: Andreea Coscai of PodVision
Music: Tom Burris/Jabbering Trout
