Introducing...Those Who Can't Teach Anymore

Teaching through Emotions

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Introducing...Those Who Can't Teach Anymore

In which Charles Fournier, podcaster extraordinaire, examines some bizarre truths that make teaching unbearable for many

Betsy Burris

Jul 10, 2025

Transcript

There are some good podcasts out there about education, but this one takes the cake. And the prize. (It has won a Top of the Rockies award from the Society of Professional Journalists and was nominated for an Ambie Award, which celebrates excellence in podcasting.) For your listening pleasure this summer, we’ve teed up Episode 5 of Those Who Can’t Teach Anymore. You’ll hear Charles and the people he interviews

discussing

the downsides of standardized testing
the upsides of process over product
the “tourist problem” in education
the intense irony of policies governing teachers and teaching
one of my favorite quotes ever, spoken by a state legislator (it’s in the intro)

I chose this episode because, while I listened to it the first time, I kept saying, “Yes!!” “Right on!” and “Absolutely!!” So many of the points Charles and his guests make resonate with me, so I know they’ll resonate with you, too.

I love this podcast on its own merit, but full disclosure here: Charles lives in Wyoming, and his podcast is centered on Wyoming. And Wyoming, dear readers, runs through my blood, as my father grew up there. Charles himself has visited the gas station and convenience store in Centennial where my dad actually lived and worked! (FYI, it’s called The Friendly Store now.) So I share this awesome episode with a heart full of fondness and pride.

I hope you enjoy it!