In this special season finale, I sit down with Charles Fournier, creator of the award-winning podcast Those Who Can’t Teach Anymore. Charles is a teacher — a really good, creative, passionate teacher, from what I can tell! — whose insights about what drives teachers out of the profession and what keeps them in are interesting and often surprising.
Listen now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
We discuss:
Respect for Teachers: Unpacking the lack of respect for teachers and how it impacts mental health.
The Emphasis on Numbers: The psychological pitfalls of trying to reduce students to test scores.
What Is Teaching?: The tension between teaching the curriculum and engaging in real human relationships.
A Pattern: A surprising characteristic shared by many teachers who survive burnout.
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Credits
Founder and Host: Betsy Burris
Co-Host: Joe Johnson
Producer: Jullian Androkae of PodVision
Music: Tom Burris/Jabbering Trout












